tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post8730533189594975482..comments2023-06-28T06:16:53.960-07:00Comments on the Valentines: The L.A. Diaries, pt. IKdjshhskmshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07594132285806395762noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-23648010993745157772012-09-01T00:47:02.494-07:002012-09-01T00:47:02.494-07:00Yeah this is a great exchange.
I'm not sure w...Yeah this is a great exchange.<br /><br />I'm not sure which research you mean re. consciousness. It sounds like you may be talking about emergence, the idea that consciousness is not the product of a specific brain area but it is a phenomena that emerges from the complexity of the neural network working together. This is probably the best hypothesis we have for how consciousness works (at Drew Jacobhttp://altmagic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-37908879288950476552012-08-30T13:45:31.719-07:002012-08-30T13:45:31.719-07:00I do love when a random blog entry inspires an int...I do love when a random blog entry inspires an interesting exchange!!<br /><br />I will concede, I am not much of a science guy but I have been following the recent proclamations from the scientific establishment regarding the non-local nature of consciousness with some fascination. Have you seen any of that business? Essentially, that the neural network of the mammalian brain is not necessary Kdjshhskmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594132285806395762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-47387213894740916842012-08-30T13:27:58.356-07:002012-08-30T13:27:58.356-07:00Fair point Re. Plato/Doc Soc, but they don't r...Fair point Re. Plato/Doc Soc, but they don't represent the whole of Greek belief (or even its norm). Certainly there was skepticism about magic and spirits in ancient Greece and Rome, and sometimes the way they talk about daimona (daimonoi? I always forget) is so transparently psychological it's laughable. <br /><br />More to the point neither P or S had access to accurate info on neuronsDrew Jacobhttp://altmagic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-25077709062904902412012-08-30T12:41:42.952-07:002012-08-30T12:41:42.952-07:00I'm not sure I can get behind that. Both Socra...I'm not sure I can get behind that. Both Socratic and Platonic philosophy turned about the idea that the psychological impact of the invisibles was so profound because the mind couldn't grasp it in its fullness, that there was a relationship of wholism's there and not a simple cause-effect. And in many ways contemporary philosophers (Delueze/Guttari/Agamben) have traversed the circleKdjshhskmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594132285806395762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-72005278066888698462012-08-30T10:06:37.561-07:002012-08-30T10:06:37.561-07:00I don't know if it's contemporary. The old...I don't know if it's contemporary. The old Greeks certainly reduced psychology to spirits and from there it's a short little step to vice versa. <br /><br />Depends on the mind of the mage, I guess. I'm way philosophically inclined. Always need to know "what" it is and how it works. That held me back sometimes, early in my practice, but now years later I find it becomingDrew Jacobhttp://altmagic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-40395413123425174582012-08-29T14:54:00.436-07:002012-08-29T14:54:00.436-07:00Also .. many thanks for the props ya'll!Also .. many thanks for the props ya'll!Kdjshhskmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594132285806395762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-89098935482510900832012-08-29T14:25:04.844-07:002012-08-29T14:25:04.844-07:00I have never much understood the contemporary impu...I have never much understood the contemporary impulse to make the spirits just one thing or another. There is both 'being' and 'dominion' after all, even in the old books. I try not to limit my definitions, to me Baal can very easily be both the spirit of some long gone God-King and the dark truth of existence. <br /><br />One should develop some nuance when working with a Kdjshhskmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594132285806395762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-71101932516382365942012-08-29T13:10:44.398-07:002012-08-29T13:10:44.398-07:00This is how a grimoire should read, Dr. Valentine....This is how a grimoire should read, Dr. Valentine. Please keep sharing these. <br /><br />As I read this I thought: it doesn't matter which comes first, spirits or psychology. You present Baal as the personification of this very specific mental state, and it works. In the end I think spirit magic of any kind comes down to the proposition that if we personify every psychological or social Drew Jacobhttp://altmagic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-26014285912601659092012-08-29T05:26:30.262-07:002012-08-29T05:26:30.262-07:00You chose to come here; you chose to die. Live wit...You chose to come here; you chose to die. Live with it, die with it, nobody dodges it.<br /><br />I've said for years any of us could go under a bus tomorrow. Momento mori, fuckers.Sefrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01674278437046782110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619214914310879742.post-53000273493243567552012-08-28T17:04:31.853-07:002012-08-28T17:04:31.853-07:00Dude! I am in love with this.Dude! I am in love with this.Rose Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289493128753395716noreply@blogger.com